Origins and Gencons Sword tournament?

[Jtolman]

Was wondering what the Format of a "swiss" tournament is? I notice the time slot for it at origins only gives 45 minutes total of play?? is that correct? how is it scored, I am taking it isn't an Elimination event? The details of it aren't very clear as to what will happen other than to bring a 2000pt army.

Somehow I feel the vent goes for more than 45 minutes, other wise why have a cost of $8 or 4 tokens for the event? $8 is a pretty hefty slot cost for a 1 hour time slot.

[Jtolman]

okay the time slot was answered when I searched it with my badge event registration. goes to 7:45 pm.

so how does a "Swiss" tournament play out? I don't have any delusions of making it to the top in that event, but I do have  from 10am to 1pm open and am wondering if it would be worth my time to pay for it just to get some Opportunity to play. Otherwise Mabey i will just take a couple single BGFW games in.

[Niko White]

Swiss is a format that avoids elimination, though sometimes it cuts to elimination rounds for the top few people.

In Swiss everyone plays in every round.  For a win you get 3 points, draw 1, loss 0.  After round 1 (which is randomly paired) you play people with a similar record to yourself, so if you lose round 1, you're likely to play someone else who lost round 1 in round 2, and so on.

Obviously depending on the size of the tournament you can get mathematically eliminated before the last few rounds but it means everyone who wants to keep playing can for as long as possible, and generally you aren't eliminated after one loss.

[Jtolman]

thanks, that helps, I think I will pass at origins since I can't spend but 3 hours on it and sign up for the Gencon one since I have no current schedule for that.

[Chad_YMG]

Not to nitpick, but the W-3, D-1, L-0 is by no means universal to Swiss system tournaments.  In Chess, for example, it's W-1, D-0.5, L-0.  I don't remember exactly how Robert ran the tournaments last time, but I'm pretty sure players earned victory points each turn rather than purely win-loss records.

This time around we're likely (for Origins) and definitely (for GenCon) going to use the soon-to-be-released campaign system to generate the individual battles.